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(via msnbc.msn.com) – Four U.S. soldiers will be court-martialed, with two facing the possibility of death if found guilty of the rape and murder of an Iraqi girl and the killing of her family in their home in the Iraqi town of Mahmudiya, a defense lawyer said Wednesday. (6 days ago)
Eliot: I'm closing this story. Any semblance of a civil discussion was lost long ago. From Karina's latest blog post: "Please don't engage in arguments/attacks concerning other commenters within comment threads; those threads exist so we can talk about the stories, and fighting bad behavior with bad behavior makes it impossible for other members of the Netscape community to use the threads as intended."
2006-10-18 22:02:36
2006-10-18 15:59:35 TimALoftis
the latest info is that 8 US Soldiers will be court-martialed with two facing possible death.
2006-10-18 16:14:27 V.O.R.
I thought for sure Green would be up for death. This was an innocent 14 year old girl and they killed her family as well. Sick. You think her relatives might become insurgents?
Maybe Rummy ought to be a defendant here as well. You lower your recruiting standards and this is the inevitable result.
2006-10-18 16:20:05 buckfush
The whole rotten administration should be put on trial. They created the condition of killing.
655,000 Iraqis dead.
2006-10-18 16:53:12 LKSc0tt
Hand 'em over to the people of Iraq and be done with it--they deserve nothing more. Just as we should be able to seek justice against citizens of foreign countries who commit violent crimes against U.S. citizens on U.S. soil, they should be able to do the same. They're a disgrace to the U.S. armed forces and to America in general.
2006-10-18 17:06:00 sanchu
Also why does the military refuse to admit the correct age of the girl (14) as the press is reporting? Stop trying to cover up her age..as if making her older will save you face.
Im no longer going to mourn or stress over the deaths of U.S. service men and women..
even if all U.S. service men and women died...their deaths will never make up for her life.
hurray..10 more soldiers died today keep it counting.
2006-10-18 18:23:47 smokeyhustler
Why do we want to make up for her life? Its called collateral damage, get over it!
2006-10-18 21:21:16 ConquerorWyrm
Collateral damage is when a fingernail sized splinter of wood, stone, steel or other substance disembowels the 14-year old who happened to be too near a blast meant for another.
Rape is intentional. These murders were intentional. That is not collateral damage...
not unless you're an Evangelical or Neo-Con, that is...
and for you to suggest otherwise is really sick...I hope you don't pray with that mind...
2006-10-18 20:29:57 Dr. Don from Denver
smokeyidiot-I have seen a whole lot of really stupid-a*s comments on this site, but your is the absolute worst!!
2006-10-18 17:17:05 Mulder
where are the 'military brats' of netscape?...shouldn't they be here defending their sicko comrades?...calling thedelta18...where r u thedelta18?....
prolly posting a video about how great it is too shoot iraqi kids...
2006-10-18 18:43:20 smokeyhustler
Hey hey! back off delta. It was me that posted the video, and it wasnt about how "great it is to shoot iraqi kids", it is "how to aim better while shooting iraqi kids"
Get it right jerk!
2006-10-18 18:57:19 moemebe
First of all The18Delta has NEVER advocated anything even close to what you wrote about him here Mulder.
You should be ashamed of yourself for the personal attack on one of our countries vetrans that sacrificed and served so that you would have the right to sit safely and comfy behind your keyboard and make such ignorant comments.
2006-10-18 21:06:32 The18Delta
dang i leave for church and muldoon has me shooting Iraqi kids. Well, well well muldookie, im here now.. bring it on!!!
2006-10-18 20:13:39 wayjer
I am a veteran also Mulder. My brother is to, currently in Iraq for a second tour, my father went to Vietnam and my grandfather fought in World War II and the Korean War so that we could have this nice cushy life we enjoy today, I am extremely offended that you would even write the words that you wrote of a veteran of the stature of 18Delta.
2006-10-18 17:38:41 sanchu
toughlove: actually buckfush is dead on. It is after all the bush administration that did invade. Even if that number is off..its still rising..and you can add that tally to bush's administration...
in a way i think sadamn though a brutal dictator did keep order..after all both the sunni and sheites were too scared of sadamn to kill each other..go figure.
2006-10-18 17:41:35 tessa13
I also feel that this was a crime and the soldiers s/b court martialed, BUT same on you sanchu and kapani for lumping the whole miltary together, I support the miltary, and sanchu how dare you say horray for the death of any american soldier. you are a jerk.
2006-10-18 17:41:50 NavArmy
I agree with LK! When I was in Korea if there was an incedent that involved a local and the soldier was anywhere near being innocent the person was out of country in 3 days. These guys are nowhere near being conceived as innocent. The U.S. will look worse if we don't turn them over to the local authorities. I dont think we should be in Iraq, but sending troops over there did not cause these guys to do what they did. If they were in the states they would have committed crimes against even more people.
2006-10-18 17:44:30 Holden Caulfield
When do potential armed soldiers get screened for mental disorders?!? War takes its toll on the psyche whether it is strong to begin with or weak! Then Dumbya & Dumbersfeld sent these soldiers to war after lying about the reason for war--talk about F-ing your mind up!!
2006-10-18 17:46:24 Jayce
Saddam was a madman, like countless other leaders of countless other countries but the region was stable when he was in power. I gaurantee the Iraqi's would take him back in a heartbeat after the job we've done over they're, doesnt say much about operation Iraqi freedom eh?
2006-10-18 18:40:46 smokeyhustler
Really? You polled the entire nation of Iraq and came to that conclusion? Interesting...
2006-10-18 17:48:26 Jayce
What is 140,000 soldiers compared to the 600,000 Iraqis killed seriously. I am just putting it in perspective. A life is a life.
2006-10-18 17:50:59 NavArmy
Some of you people seem to want things bad or worse in Iraq! Just because a few soldiers screw up royally doesn't mean that all of our military is bad! Kapani you should be investigated for aiding terrorist. Do you think that all Muslims should die because of the handfull of thugs that think nothing of killing their own kids to further their cause? You should have your visa revoked and be deported! If you have one!
2006-10-18 17:56:19 USMCMOM06
I am ill reading the comments and lack of support for our young men and women who are defending our freedoms.
We see criminals of the most disgusting nature in all walks of life. To hold all of our young men and women accountable is outrageous! These men should be held accountable for their individual actions.
YOU have the ability to sleep where you want to, eat where you want to, worship where you want to and to say what you want to only because of the fine young men and women who are out there protecting your ability/rights to do so.
My son had a promising future ahead of him. But after 911 he felt the need to stand up for our country. Don't mourn for him.but dont you dare disrespect him either!
2006-10-18 17:56:50 Jayce
Just making a point, these things that are happening are symptoms of a failed poicy in the region. Being human goes beyond what nationality you are, these are real people dieing horrible deaths for absolutely nothing except maybe being born on Oil reserves.
2006-10-18 17:59:23 sanchu
tessa13: Your talking about 8 soldiers..8 soldiers that have 8 seperate brains...all trained to fight with honor yet not one of them steps up to defend this innocent girl.. basically lumping the whole military together sounds about right because i sincerly doubt if it was 8 or 200 that any one of them would have stepped up to protect her and her family.
so yes i could care less if more of our soldeers die..if those that killed her didnt care about her life why should i care about any of them.
2006-10-18 18:04:40 Jayce
2006-10-18 20:24:15 Dr. Don from Denver
How sad that the situation has deteriorated to this point!!
If convicted, life without parole in the toughest lockup in the country would be appropriate, and far worse than execution.
Let's all remember, con or lib, that the vast majority of our people over there are decent human beings trying their best to deal with a deadly, hopeless situation.
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2006-10-18 20:34:31 Dr. Don from Denver
Just think - they will be entitled to a public trial, to confront their accusors, to see the evidence against them - more rights than we, as citizens, have since yesterday!
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2006-10-18 22:05:09 The18Delta
thank you RYAN very well done and needed..Thanks very much
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